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  Did You Have Good Relationships With The Elders?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my experience was that most jws wanted to have an elder “friend” just in case they got into any “trouble “.kinda like knowing that certain cop who might get you out of a jam.

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  of course there was another group who did everything they could to either kiss the elders’ ass or stonewall them anytime they came snooping around.. how did you and the “older men” get along?.

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  Anna Marina

  I had no idea about the back room. Wasn't until I was all but out and met up with a bro who was on his way out. He explained to me the horrible things that went on behind the scenes.

  The elders were generally very, very nice to me. It was the doctrines I saw through first. Not the elders. Then I realised that the elders were comfortable going along with blasphemy. But even when I called them out on it, they still kept trying to get me to go along with it. As they threw me out, one of them shook my hand. Another told me I had down some wonderful research. Yet another listed the fond memories he had of me.

  And now - are they nice to me? When they see me they look away or disappear down the aisle of a shop. But others, not elders are behaving differently. They smile, they wave, they speak.

  My name is not mentioned much by the elders. I suspect when they are not grinding their teeth at the thought of me they feel shame.
  
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  Another Unnecessary Early Death

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a young man in somerset in england, under massive pressure from financial and relationship issues lapsed into mental illness.

  he was unlucky enough to have as his support system the local congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

  one of the symptoms of his illness was the use of tobacco.

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  Anna Marina

  When I was chucked out the synagogue last year, the elders apparently discussed the possibility of me committing suicide. How heart warming eh? If you didn't feel hated beforehand, you certainly feel hated when you find that out.

  But I keep remembering what happened to Joseph and how he forgave his brothers in the end.

  I do understand how some fall short in their behaviour or just get in a bit of a mess and it leaves them vulnerable to a troubled conscience. This is one reason why I would encourage anyone who even slightly imagines that this is God's organisation to put that thought right out of their mind. It isn't. And they are not your judge and jury. Jesus Christ is and He loves you so much he died for you. Get out the Bible, read the things Jesus said and did, then ask yourself, what would his view be of you?

  You are loved, you are cherished, you are precious, you are of immense value. Know it. And if you've mess up a bit, change your ways and move on.

  Get some royal robes ready and a few fatted calves cause if the elders who were cruel to you ever come to their senses, you'll all have a nice party together one day.
  
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  New York City...OMG What Is Happening??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.

  the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.

  now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.

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  Wolverine 32 is no longer a number. It has transition to 46 and identifies itself as a word beginning with t.

  So 31 is now followed by 33. Ok.
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  New York City...OMG What Is Happening??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.

  the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.

  now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.

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  Wolverines I hope you haven't got a problem with the number 29. By saying 28 you are excluding 29 that's not efical.
  
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  ''Jehovah, please make Covid 19 go away so we can back to our meetings.'' AMEN!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ''brothers, let's not fool ourselves.

  this virus is really hitting our business finances.

  our brothers and sisters are loving every minute of the local congregation zoom meetings.

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  Anna Marina

  Failure? They don't fail. Any negative, to them is just a positive missing it's vertical line.
  
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  ''Jehovah, please make Covid 19 go away so we can back to our meetings.'' AMEN!

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ''brothers, let's not fool ourselves.

  this virus is really hitting our business finances.

  our brothers and sisters are loving every minute of the local congregation zoom meetings.

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  Anna Marina

  "Well of course, I have a great idea, lett us emphasise the great value of our teachings and how this pearl of great price is provided without cost. But is it free? Noooo. Without cost does not mean free. But we can provide the money. Yes we will lend every publisher £15 trillion and all they have to do is pay it back in regular installments with minimal interest.

  Some people actually question whether we care for our fellow domestics. Of course we care because we want them to benefit from this generous loan which will pay for a very rewarding education."

  Nod nod, smile smile, gurn gurn.

  Hand rub.
  
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  BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?

  by Black Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.

  while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).

  a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.

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  Anna Marina

  Anyone heard of Ron Drage or Ron Rage at London Bethel? David Sidbury or Tom Cruise?
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  Out Of All TV Shows Over The Years Which Were Your Favorites?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the sopranos was my number one show.

  to me it was the best series ever.

  for a good laugh, i still enjoy the beverly hillbillies reruns.

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  I like Bugs Bunny.
  
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  My letter of disassociation, what do you think?

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.

  that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.

  statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!

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  Anna Marina

  Top tip for anyone still in and wanting to leave. Set up your own WhatsApp (or similar) group so when they throw you out those who want to stay in touch can do so without the prying eyes of elders. Make sure those you care about know how to find you privately.

  I can tell you more are leaving. Patience, a helping hand and understanding of their confusion and difficult situation has worked wonders. Elders are having to chew on sticks.
  
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  Watchtower Sues to Keep Convention Videos Off Internet

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/07/20/mormonleaks-founders-pay/?fbclid=iwar31g8tcjkq3dtzxjx6mhinhqnk6fequaiwu_278zkhia6vmbyb6ha_jz28.

  so i guess the wt holds free public gatherings, but will sue anyone who publishes a video of the free speeches?

  what happened to advertise, advertise advertise the king and his kingdom?

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  Anna Marina

  Oh, I'm no film buff but I've seen trailers - that looks like Star Warsie kinda thing.

  I guess the key Islamic element it doesn't have is a merchant called Mohammed/Splane/Lett/III who sets himself up as a profit and claims he met Gabriel.

  Then he lays limp on the floor chants and comes up with the Watchtower - oops typo - Koran.